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Prefeitura de SP dá concessão de terreno e constrói quadra para escola de samba com verba pública

31 de março de 2021 2177

Riselda Morais

pauliceia

     Espaço com 2.547,00 m² é colocado no Programa Adote uma Praça e depois é concedido a Escola de Samba Imperatriz da Paulicéia que teve a quadra construída com verba pública

 

    Os moradores de Vila Talarico e Vila Nova Savoya não concordam com o espaço da praça ser concedido a escola de samba. 

Alertam que a região é carente de lazer, creches, saúde e cultura e que há muito, vinham solicitando melhorias na área pública para ser reconhecida como praça.
De acordo com os moradores, o local já teve bancos de praça e árvores plantadas mas a prefeitura não regularizou.

      Área da praça antes da concessão tinha árvores e espaço para passeios, nunca foi invadida por barracos dizem os munícipes. Imagem Google.

 

quadra escola de samba
Moradores protestam contra a quadra da escola de samba na área residencial onde moram.

    Depois de ter feito solicitação direta e através de abaixo assinado ao Subprefeito da Penha na época, Thiago Della Volpe direcionando ao Prefeito Bruno Covas, para que na área fosse instalada uma praça aparelhada para crianças, com espaço para idosos e uma quadra para os jovens.

   Mas os moradores do entorno e usuários das pistas de caminhadas se surpreenderam ao ver o espaço fechado e com caminhões da Escola de Samba Imperatriz da Pauliceia, que pertence ao bairro do Jardim Popular, indignados, os munícipes reagiram com protestos contra a instalação da escola.
“Tanto espaço em São Paulo, e estão a tirar deste bairro, que nenhum espaço tem para os moradores com crianças”, dizem os moradores no pedido de regularização e manutenção da praça, feito a Subprefeitura Penha, em 12 de abril de 2019.

  

Escola de Samba
Ao entrar no Programa Adote uma praça a área ao invés de ser revitalizada foi cercada por aramado impedindo o acesso da população.

Programa Adote uma Praça 

   Muitos fatos levam a crer que tudo em relação a essa concessão foi detalhadamente pensado, uma vez que quando a subprefeitura Penha cercou o terreno colocou placa do Adote uma Praça, logo depois, em documento, a prefeitura negou ser praça e deu a concessão. SEI_PMSP – 039379693 – Termo de Recebimento Definitivo

     O programa Adote uma Praça permite que o adotante realize serviços de zeladoria de canteiros centrais, em área livre municipal entre ruas e praças públicas, que receberão manutenção e conservação da área, limpeza, poda de árvore, revitalização de plantas rasteiras e o paisagismo completo. É concedida a empresa colocar sua placa mas jamais cercar o ambiente impedindo o acesso da população.

    Em 17 de outubro de 2018, foi publicado no DIARIO OFICIAL da Cidade de São Paulo, a concessão da área pública localizada na Rua Fernão Albernaz n° 01 com a Avenida Bernardino Brito Fonseca de Carvalho, n° 1.450 em Vila Talarico, na Zona Leste de São Paulo de aproximadamente 2.547,00 m² feita pelo Subprefeito Thiago Della Volpe ao G.R.E.S. Imperatriz da Paulicéia.

Requerimento de concessão feito pela Escola de Samba Imperatriz da Paulicéia é por 99 anos.
Requerimento de Concessão     

      De acordo com texto, a concessão seria para a implantação de uma Quadra Poliesportiva para ser utilizada para ensaios da escola, um anexo para Cursos de Inglês, reforço escolar para crianças e alfabetização de adultos da comunidade local.
      Mesmo com a utilização da área fechada a comunidade do bairro, que é residencial, servindo para guardar os carros alegóricos, o que consiste em desvio de finalidade a concessão não foi cancelada.
      Em 06 de fevereiro de 2020, o Vereador Gilson Barreto (PSDB) através do Decreto 59.210 ofereceu o valor de R$ 700.000,00 para a construção de Salões de Convivência  Multiuso no mesmo endereço.
  A justificativa do texto é igual para este e outros empreendimentos, incluindo um na Aricanduva, também sob responsabilidade da Sub Penha, de acordo com documentos do E-sic – Portal de Transparência.
“Novos espaços públicos de convivência para prática de atividades voltadas a terceira idade, crianças, jovens e adolescentes, atividades comunitárias, realização de reuniões, palestras e encontros para debate de assuntos de interesse da população”.
     Mas a PMSP foi ainda mais generosa, além de conceder a área ainda destinou a verba pública no valor de R$ 771.134,26 para a construção da quadra da escola, conforme documentado e registrado como executado no Plano de Obras da Subprefeitura Penha do dia 20/08/2020 as 13:24:04.
    No dia seguinte, 21 de agosto de 2020 a PMSP, através da Sub Penha fez o cancelamento da reserva no valor de R$ 45.557,17 e mantendo a dotação de R$ 725.577,09.
     A ordem de início da obra foi dada a empresa Novorumo Engenharia e Comercio LTDA, pela Coordenadoria de Projetos e Obras, através do então subprefeito da Penha Thiago Della Volpi em 25 de junho de 2020, na qual o valor onerado é de R$ 587.045,61.

    No Plano Municipal 2018 a 2021, a Supervisão Técnica de Saúde Penha havia solicitado a construção no local para a implantação do serviço de saúde bucal da Unidade Básica de Saúde de Vila Guilhermina (UBS Vila Guilhermina), mas teve seu pedido ignorado.
Cabe no entanto, investigação dos órgãos competentes sobre uma possível improbidade administrativa.

O que dizem os envolvidos

 Vereador Gilson Barreto

  De acordo com a Nota a Redação, o Vereador afirma que a prefeitura cercou a área e construiu nela um salão multiuso e um espaço pet, com infraestrutura para abrigar reuniões de encontros em benefício de todos. “Tive a iniciativa de indicar recursos municipais, por meio de emenda parlamentar, para a revitalização  desse local. Foi um pedido da própria subprefeitura”, afirma o vereador.

   Gilson disse ainda que “cabe ao Executivo acompanhar o seu dia a dia e corrigir um eventual uso indevido desse espaço”.

    Mas na nota, Gilson Barreto alega que a área estava degradada e abandonada, havia sido invadida e estava servindo como ponto de venda de drogas. Os moradores do entorno discordam dessa alegação.

Imagem Google da área com o acesso do público.

Grêmio Recreativo Escola de Samba Imperatriz da Paulicéia

   Fui até a quadra dia 26 de março, só se encontravam no local, dois seguranças e pedreiros.

Junior, mais conhecido como “batata” aceitou ter uma conversa informal na sede da Rua Amaro Bezerra Cavalcanti, mas não permitiu ser gravado e nem fotografado.

Confirmou que a quadra foi construída com verba pública mas preferiu se pronunciar em nota a redação via Watts App.

  Nota a Redação:
Procurada por nossa redação, a Imperatriz da Paulicéia disse através de Watts app enviado por Junior, mais conhecido como “batata” que: “se coloca a disposição de toda a comunidade, tanto no quesito social, através dos projetos sociais, quando no quesito cultural, fomentando e divulgando a cultura nacional”. Diz ainda que “espera realizar uma importante parceria com a comunidade visando sempre uma enorme troca de conhecimento e experiências e criando um vínculo de amizade e ajuda mútua”.

Redes Sociais 

Escola de Samba

Subprefeito Thiago Della Volpe

    O subprefeito da Penha, na época era Thiago Della Volpe, no entanto ele saiu da Sub Penha e atualmente é Subprefeito de Guaianases.

Tentei contato mas devido ao feriado os telefones da Subprefeitura não estão atendendo e até o fechamento desta não tivemos acesso ao ex subprefeito da Penha e atual Subprefeito de Guaianases.

PMSP  e  a Secretaria de Infraestrutura e Obras 

Foram contactadas mas ainda não se manifestaram sobre  o assunto. 

Com informações do E-sic Portal Transparência e Lei de Acesso à informação em 29/03/2021.

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  2043. Domingo 12/11/2021 essa porcaria de escola de samba atormentando moro nos predios do outro lado da rua acabaram com o bairro não consigo ver televisao porcaria de vereador so faz caca ve se onde ele mora tem uma barulheira dessa, administracao regional Penha parabens pelo presente de grego e com verba publica tem que fechar essa porcaria.

  2044. E O PRECONCEITO PAULISTANO CONTRA AS ESCOLS DE SAMBA…CONTINUA…

    E como sempre, a décadas, mais uma vez as Escolas de Samba sofrem com o preconceito com as agremiações da mais genuina manifestação da cultura popular brasileira e a alienação a cultura norte americana do paulistano.
    Li, pasmo, postagens q dizem q o bairro em questão precisa de praças, etc, e CULTURA, ora bolas, e as Escolas de samba nao fazem cultura ? Ou cultura são somentes grupos de rock norte, balé, e teatro norte americanos e europeus ?
    O mais curioso e CRIMINOSO é algumas pessoas q citam a Escola de Samba como se ela fosse polo de marginais, de bagunça, de algo que vai colocar em risco a integridade fisica dos moradores.
    Porem, estes mesmos q latem criticas assim, sequer deram um grão de arroz durante a pandemia (e por toda vida) nos tais asilos, e lugares que abrigam pessoas carentes na regiao onde se encontra a agremiação agora.
    Estes mesmos, sequer sabem que as Escolas de samba nao são apenas carnaval e q no projeto delas, se inclui diversos projetos sociais educativos e culturais que podem tirar muito garoto da vida errada. Seria interessante estas pessoas conhecerem isto, antes de falarem sobre o que seu preconceito os impede ver.
    Como sempre, é a pseudo elite paulistana que me enoja como paulistano da gema que sou.
    Parabens Imperatriz da Paulicéia, agremiação que eu conheço desde seus primódios, da antiga Presidente Cida, pessoa guerreira da cultura sambistico carnavalesca.
    Continuem na sua luta. Levem cultura para estas pessoas, pois ficou-me claro q elas estao precisando. Mas não a cultura q os alienou a modelos norte americanos/Europeus de cultura e sim a cultura popular brasileira e por sinal, a mais genuina representação dela que são as Escolas de Samba.
    E para terminar, citarei o artigo 215 da carta magna brasileira, nossa constituição que diz o seguinte:
    ” O Estado garantirá a todos o pleno exercício dos direitos culturais e acesso às
    fontes da cultura nacional, e apoiará e incentivará a valorização e a difusão das manifestações
    culturais.
    § 1º O Estado protegerá as manifestações das culturas populares, indígenas e afrobrasileiras, e das de outros grupos participantes do processo civilizatório nacional.
    – I- Defesa e valorização do patrimônio cultural brasileiro;
    – IV -Democratização do acesso aos bens de cultura”

  2045. Nice, larga a mão de ser maldosa e fofoqueira, tá feio…
    Nunca teve música alta até as 4 da manhã e muito menos brigas, nenhuma por sinal!!!
    Assaltos sempre teve na região e em qualquer lugar, então pare de inventar.
    Se a felicidade dos outros te incomoda pq sua vida deve ser um fiasco como a dos 6 líderes fracassados desse movimento, não temos nada com isso, tem muitos vizinhos encosta do é adorando e vcs vão ficar sozinhos, pq de liderança vcs são fracos e nunca irão conseguir nada , pq a verdade é q cada vizinho que encosta lá quer distância de vcs que acham q representam os moradores….
    Vc e seu grupo são fracos, verdadeiros pé de breque e atrasa lado…
    Para de fofoca e tente ser feliz, se é q vcs conseguem…

  2046. Atualmente essa escola só mostra o que já estávamos esperando com a chegada deles aqui no nosso bairro, música alta as 4 da manhã, brigas de madrugada, aumento de assaltos na região, esses são os benefícios que essa escola iria trazer pra região? Só trouxe bagunça!! Não queremos nenhuma escola e sim UBS!!

  2047. Olá,

    Tenho acompanhado os posts aqui e vejo que existe uma dificuldade de entendimento ou má fé de pessoas que querem distorcer o fator da matéria.

    O ponto inicial é a concessão de área pública, contra a vontade da população do entorno da Gamelinha. Começam um processo de querem tornar nosso pedido como moradores para um área para saúde como se fossemos contra Escolas de Samba, assistência a comunidades carentes, distribuição de alimentos, etc.

    Parem com essa tentativa de tornarem-se vítimas, ou colocarem-se como “discriminados”, na verdade isso não existe.

    Já fui em quadras de escola de samba, confesso que gosto do Carvanal, mas isso não tem nada ver com a ocupação de um área, que deveria ser para saúde, com alegação estamos dando bolsas, comida, assistência, etc. Isso tudo podem continuar fazendo normalmente, afinal, ninguém pediu uma área pública na Cracolândia para cuidar daqueles pessoas, que também precisam, ou seja, parem com essa justificativa que vocês “merecem” o local por quê “trazem o bem”.

    Podem continuar fazendo o bem se quiserem, mas por favor, façam lá do local que foi concedido a vocês com a queda da PL.

    Vocês estão em local que precisamos de uma UBS e não um galpão.

    Prova que isso é ilegal, são os diversos acionamentos ao ministério público, onde fica evidente que existe um problema em uma concessão como essa.

    Vi comentários aqui falando de elite, o que demonstra total discurso de vitimização, afinal, “Elite morando no entorno da Gamelinha?” Elite por que pedimos saúde?, Elite por quê queremos cuidar das pessoas e de seus problemas de saúde?

    Vamos reclamar de filas de pessoas buscando tratamentos?

    Isso mostra que quem tem interesses obscuros são outros, afinal, nunca vi alguém reclamar daquilo que precisa.

    Nunca vi alguém reclamar da existência de uma UBS, agora se buscar barracão de escola de samba, todos podem ver que por traz do discurso de “bem feitores de plantão”, existem pessoas de diferentes bairros, regiões, locais, onde o fim da paz e sossego, básico de pessoas de áreas residenciais são ceifados, levando desespero a moradores, em sua maioria idosos, que precisam de sossego.

    Quem quer fazer o bem não precisa estar dentro do bairro, faz de qualquer lugar, parem de pintarem-se de bonzinhos.

  2048. Uma correção:

    GRADUAÇÃO SOLIDARIA oferta bolsas de até 100% nos cursos superiores em varias faculdades e agora também a possibilidade do mesmo beneficio do berçario ao segundo grau em varias redes de ensino particular.

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  2049. Bom, vamos as atualizações.

    – 400 refeições entregues a moradores de rua da região, entre segunda e sexta-feira.
    – Doação de 150 cestas basicas, com possibilidade de aumento na demanda pelo surgimento de novas doações.
    -Ampliação do projeto GRADUAÇÃO SOLIDARIA , que atravez da IMPERATRIZ DA PAULICEIA são ofertada bolsas de até 100% e a partir de agora serão também ofertadas as mesmas bolsas do berçario ao segundo grau.

    Lembrando que as portas continuão abertas todos os dias, para quem quiser conferir e participar, muitos pessoas que constumam andar na pista estão entrando e se colocando a disposição para doações e ajuda.

    Estamos a disposição de todos!!!

  2050. Também sou moradora. E faco minha as palavras da Tatiana. E do sr.Ferraz
    Ninguém e contra escola de samba.. e sim
    a instalacaoo da mesma no bairro residencial. Aonde tem muitos asilos idosos. Igrejas. E trabalhadores que necessitam do descanso.
    Pedimos que entendam e respeitem o desejo dos moradores.

  2051. Bom dia moradores do entorno da gamelinha…
    Li o longo texto da vizinha Tatiana… e concordo com ela em tudo que ela escreveu…
    Então Sra. Tatiana vc não está sozinha e não temos medo de ameaças.
    Fica aqui o meu apoio a vc Sra. Tatiana
    Estamos juntos em querer o melhor para nosso bairro!

  2052. Fui citada algumas vezes aqui nos comentários. Era para me intimidar? Puxa, que pena! Não surtiu efeito.
    Vejam que sequer mudei meu nome, abreviei, coloquei um pseudo apelido. Nada disso.
    Não me intimidei por dois motivos:

    1º – nossa reivindicação enquanto moradores é lícita
    2º – estamos tratando, de acordo com alguns comentários, com pessoas BOAS, pessoas de BEM, pessoas bondosas e caridosas. Por isso, porque eu deveria me intimidar ou temer talvez pela minha integridade física?

    Queremos avisar a todos moradores que não temos o porquê brigar, discutir, ofender e xingar a escola de samba ou seus integrantes.
    Quem usa xingamento é porque com certeza faltou argumento.

    Apenas essa escola foi citada, porque ela é a beneficiária do espaço.
    NOSSO PROBLEMA NÃO É COM A ESCOLA DE SAMBA. É COM A SUBPREFEITURA, que arbitrariamente, empurrou goela abaixo, um barracão de escola de samba no meio dos bairros residenciais, mesmo com protestos há 3 anos, incluindo uma solicitação desde 2017 de uma UBS para o mesmo local. É o descaso do poder público para com os cidadãos e contribuintes.
    Mau uso do dinheiro publico por parte do GILSON BARRETO também.
    A obrigação de fazer ação social é do poder público, PARA ISSO FORAM ELEITOS.
    Não foram eleitos para terceirizar uma obrigação que é desse poder.

    Para o sr ou sra Sincerão, não desejo participar de seus churrascos.
    E veja, não estou me escondendo através de apelidos, porque não vou fazer nada que possa me arrepender. Se bem que com a internet, nada fica escondido.
    Qualquer delegacia digital encontra o IP de quem postou e pronto: encontramos o remetente da postagem

    Mas veja sr ou sra Sincerão, desculpe a mensagem longa.

    Ao contrário do que escreveram, não somos de elite alguma. Moramos em bairros da zona leste. Isso não é ser elite, até onde conheça.
    O que alguns de nós temos, é uma casa ou apartamento simples, nada luxuoso, de pouca metragem construída, e algumas vezes, uns moradores possuem, um carro.
    Bens adquiridos sem NENHUMA doação de qualquer poder governamental.
    E o pouco que temos de adicional é a possibilidade de nos momentos de folga ou de trabalho contar com o silêncio, que convenhamos, um barracão de ensaio de samba, com toda sua alegria e energia, não irá nos proporcionar.

    Não temos preconceito com a cultura, o Carnaval e não colocamos desprezo nas pessoas que frequentam esses locais.
    Muito pelo contrário, o preconceito vem de vcs mesmos, quando diz: se querem sossego vão para Moema ou Jardins.
    Quer dizer que pra ter sossego tem que ir para área nobre da cidade?
    Se ficar na periferia tem que se sujeitar à uma possível bagunça e desordem de escola de samba?
    Isso sim é preconceito, em dizer que numa área pobre (Sim, a zona leste é pobre) não se pode ter sossego.

    O que queremos (aqui vai um pedido) é que o Sr ou Sra. já que está aqui tão ativo nestas postagens: JUNTE-SE A NÓS, MORADORES.
    O espaço de cessão do local, o projeto de lei, foi derrubado. A baixa foi inclusive publicada em diário oficial.
    Mas a Prefeitura, para manter o que combinou com vcs (entregar um espaço para ensaios), fez um contrato de assistência a população com um suposto salão multi uso, sem incluir ENSAIOS. Tem limitação de ruído.

    É péssimo para vocês, enquanto instituição, estarem num local que sabem que não são bem vindos. Ninguém fica bem assim.
    Que os moradores do entorno estão esperando qualquer ruído para denunciarem por não cumprimento do contrato, por desvio da utilização.
    Que a todo momento, pessoas fazem postagens negativas incluindo o nome da escola.
    Que hoje a matéria e todos os documentos oficiais estão com esse jornal, que querendo ou não, chegou até vocês.
    Nada impedirá de repassarem a matéria para um jornal de circulação Nacional.
    Poderá haver envolvimento do Ministério Público, para fiscalizar prestação de contas, vistoria na documentação.
    Ou seja, um verdadeiro inferno. Tanto para os moradores, quanto para vocês.
    É muito ruim ter que ficar se defendo a todo momento, nem que seja, xingando.

    A assessoria do Sr. Gilson Barreto, quando procurada, informou que não se responsabiliza pelo desvio da utilização do espaço, ou seja, deixaram vcs na mão.
    Será uma briga eterna entre moradores e escola de samba…

    O que proponho quando digo, junte-se a nós é UNIDOS (moradores e escola) cobrar a subprefeitura para que procurem (eu sei que tem) um espaço adequado para instalação de um barracão de escola de samba para vocês.
    O que chamo de adequado é um local longe ou pelo menos um pouco mais afastado de residências.
    Com avenidas apropriadas para trânsito de grande volume de pessoas. Não uma Gamelinha, que mal cabem dois carros em paralelo.
    Vejam a fábrica do samba se tem moradia ao redor.

    A proposta é cobrar a subprefeitura para que apoiem a cultura, de uma forma que não prejudiquem moradores, enfiando em qualquer lugar um barracão, onde sequer poderão fazer os ensaios de vocês em paz.

    Essa é a proposta. Tenho certeza de que reconhecem que o espaço atual não é adequado.
    Vai dar trabalho esse pleito, com certeza! Mas quem aqui foge de trabalho, não é mesmo?

    Como disse o Lula em entrevista na semana passada numa emissora de televisão: podemos ter pensamentos e desejos diferentes, mas não impedem que sentemos para conversar.
    Ele andou em descrédito é verdade, mas ainda é uma boa frase, mesmo que não tenha sido sincera.

    Aqui estou deixando a possibilidade de encontro de ideias e rumar para uma solução para todos.

  2053. Nossa me mandaram esse link porque uma escola de samba não atrapalha não o que atrapalha é a língua desse povo que nunca fez nada pelo bairro seria bom cada um cuidar da sua vida creio que a pessoa que está contra está tentando se beneficiar com alguma coisa tem uma tal de aparecida que me falaram tumutua no bairro todo gente esse bairro tá cheio de noia roubo direto acho que uma escola de samba no bairro vai valorizar o bairro ,aí vcs que crítica vai lá saber não fica mandando informações errada

  2054. Senhores vereadores, sub prefeitos, prefeito.
    Quero mostrar minha indignação com a instalação da escola de samba que está sendo instalada na área que seria um lugar para o laser dos moradores do nosso bairro. Infelizmente, após ver essa notícia, cheguei a conclusão que o vereador envolvido na execução desse empreendimento não tem compromisso com os moradores do bairro e não conhece os moradores da região ou a corrupção deve estar ativa.
    Os moradores do nosso bairro, há algum tempo, vem pedindo para que na área em questão, fosse instalado um posto de Saúde.
    Quero saber das autoridades por que o espaço foi doado para a escola de samba? Quais os benefícios que trará para os moradores? E o espaço para as nossas crianças que era o prometido?
    Nós os moradores do bairro somos totalmente contra esse absurdo que estão querendo fazer. _ I N D I G N A D O!

  2055. Quero deixar aqui minha indignação com a Subprefeitura da região , que ao invés de construír uma benfeitoria para os moradores, veio ceder e construir com verba pública uma Escola de Samba na região.
    Estamos presisando de um Posto de Saúde , tendo em vista que não temos nenhum e todos os que atendem nossa região tem que se locomover ou de carro ou de ônibus .
    Então queremos Posto de Saúde para atender a nossa vizinhança.

  2056. Os moradores tem que ter precedência na escolha do uso do espaço público! Além de injusto, está claro e evidente algum jogo de interesse e desvio de finalidade neste caso. Totalmente descabido a implantação de uma escola de samba em meio a residências. Irresponsabilidade e imprudência ! Vamos evitar transtornos eternos e sejamos solidários. Há centenas de espaços sem uso e de propriedade do poder público mais adequado para a instalação de uma escola de samba. Vamos respeitar os moradores que já se utilizam deste espaço há anos. Vamos ser mais inteligentes e evitar conflitos futuros. O local não é adequado, as vias não são adequadas, o bairro não é adequado para receber escola de samba! E a forma como está sendo feita também não é correta! Ignorando os direitos de precedência de pedidos anteriores. Este caso deve ser JUDICIALIZADO imediatamente! MORADORES, entrem com ação judicial coletiva imediatamente e solicitem em caráter de liminar ou mandado de segurança a obstrução imediata deste lugar. NÃO adianta ficarem pedindo para subprefeito ou vereadores, pois já sabemos como se comportam. Abram os olhos! Corram atrás dos seus direitos antes que seja tarde!!!!

    Por fim, bases policiais foram fechadas e agora querem abrir escolas de samba no bairro! Onde iremos parar se não agirmos?

  2057. Kkkk olha o outro kkkkk escola de xadrez…Tá no bairro errado, vc deveria morar em Moema, Ibirapuera…kkkkk
    Cara se achando da elite, se achando intelectual e membro de algum tribunal ameaçando servidores público.
    Vc é bem humorado isso não tem como negar, tem outra piada, mas sem preconceito pq é feio. Kkkķkk
    Samba não silencia nunca, engole o choro!!!

  2058. Robson, falou bonito com palavras cheias de efeito mas eu te pergunto, vc acompanha esse negócio desde o início?
    Tá meio perdido tbem né…
    Sou frequentador da escola e só estou respondendo a algumas pessoas que desde o início ( abaixo assinado on line) sempre atacaram, acusaram e debocharam das ações da escola.
    Não repondo pela a agremiação , se quer debater alguma coisa pq não vai lá procurar os responsáveis é bem fácil de fazer de acha-los e certamente irão te atender e aproveita e lança o desafio pra esses”moradores” para se identificarem e ir lá ratificar pessoalmente esse monte de acusações, vamos ver se vc é bom mesmo mas vou logo te adiantando, não vai aparecer 1 pra bater no peito e assumir responsabilidafe.
    Tá desafiado vamos ver.

  2059. Não tem cabimento ter gasto o dinheiro de contribuintes no caso R$700mil num barracão de uma escola de samba que nunca ouvir se quer falar ,o nosso bairro não precisa de escola de samba a ubs na Rua João Marchiori paga aluguel de R$7mil de aluguel.
    E outra coisa tem 3 casas de repouso entorno desse barracão.
    Escola de xadrez ninguém constrói né???
    Esse álibi de serviço social não cola.
    #CarnavalDoSilêncio
    #DescasoDinheiroPúblico
    #TchauEscolaDeSamba
    #NãoQueroBatucadaDeBaixoDaMinhaJanela
    #CasacãoDoMandatoDoVereadorGilsonBarreto
    #CasacãoDoMandatoDoSubPrefeitoThiagoDellaVolpe

  2060. Pensando em território e nos indivíduos que lá estão, acho incabivel a postura da administração publica nao levar ao conhecimento e aprovação prévia dos moradores do bairro.
    Sendo um bairro residencial, com moradores (proprietarios ) antigos, a prefeitura deveria pedir opinião sobre suas demandas antes de colocar uma escola de samba que é de conhecimento de todos, nao vai trazer benfeitorias a região.
    Vemos que a escola de samba não é da região e essa heterogeneidade poderá causar conflitos.
    A sociedade civil precisa ser consultada sempre!!!!

  2061. E creio que vão continuar escrevendo aqui como se fossem nós os reias moradores. Lamentável!

  2062. Boa matéria Giselda, muito obrigado por dar voz e vez aos moradores que relamente residem ao entorno do “salão multiuso” que na verdade é só mais uma jogada política em troca de votos. As pessoas que aqui escrevem a favor de fornecer um espaço público onde foi gasto 700 mil reais para outra coisa no momento que não fosse pelo menos uma UBS devem ser as mesmas que assinaram abaixo assinado se passando pelos moradores aqui do bairro. E agora tomam posse como de uma coisa pública como se fosse propriedade particular…. Parabéns Verador Gilson Barreto.

  2063. Nossa acho que esse jornal nunca teve tantos comentários !Que tristeza ler esses ataques e quanta revolta de pessoas que nem sabem o que significa uma escola de samba ! Para quem não sabe envolve muito mais do que vcs estão preocupados !!O barulho e os ensaios comparado ao que é proporcionado a comunidade é o que menos deveria incomodar vcs !Agora dizer que o bairro não tem comunidade …..me poupe !O que cada um de vcs que se expressaram aqui ,fazem para ajudar essa comunidade?vcs gostam realmente de falar difícil ,se preocupam com o próprio umbigo e alguns aqui estão revoltados pq não se beneficiaram com o que gostariam de fazer nesse local !Triste!!!Deveriam ir como eu fui, conversar com os responsáveis da escola e entender o que eles vão fazer para agregar no nosso bairro!Desde que a escola começou a cuidar do terreno me sinto mais tranquila em caminhar por la !E querem saber? Eu adoro samba e quando tudo estiver funcionando com o término dessa pandemia vou prestigiar e levar meus familiares e com certeza participarei de todos os projetos que eles terão para me oferecer !vcs reclamam de tudo mas não fazem nada e acho que adoravam aqueles nóias que frequentavam a praça !bando de gente chata !

  2064. Boa tarde! Acredito que todos queiram defender seu lado, mas existe algo acima disso que é a lei, não importa se a Escola de Samba faz trabalho social, ajuda a comunidade ou qualquer outra atividade, é uma Escola de Samba, que tem como foco principal o Carnaval, os ensaios, preparações de alegoria, fantasia, samba enredo, etc….e essa atividade está em total desacordo com o zoneamento, estamos em uma área residencial, cercada por vários prédios de apartamentos com suas respectivas famílias que após um dia cansativo de trabalho precisa de descanso e o barulho de uma Escola de Samba não vai permitir esse direito dos cidadãos. Agora se entrarmos no detalhe de como o terreno do munícipio foi cedido para essa finalidade com certeza vamos encontrar ilegalidades/irregularidades, caso não seja possível resolver essa questão de forma consensual, nós moradores da região devemos envolver as esferas necessárias para fazer valer a lei, os envolvidos nesse esquema fraudulento terão que se explicar na justiça e no caso de identificação de crime serão punidos de acordo com a lei. Não pensem que não vai dar em nada, que isso é Brasil, quem estiver disposto a lutar pelos seus direitos e pela justiça irá encontrar a vitória, leve o tempo que for necessário. Convido a todos os cidadãos indignados como eu a procurar também os meios de comunicação para que esse assunto tenha o alcance que precisar para ser resolvido. Juntos somos mais fortes!

  2065. Absurdo tudo isso… Sou moradora da região e me sinto indignada. Falta de respeito total com tantos prédios de frente a escola, idosos, crianças, enfermos que terão que aguentar ensaio de bateria, bateria, gritos. Bando de gente escrota que não tá nem aí pro próximo só pensam em si mesmo, que vergonha 🤬

  2066. Sou moradora vizinha desse barracão e não queremos escola de samba nem uma tirando nosso sossego aqui é um bairro residencial não é lugar de bagunça vão pra onde quiserem vai ora casa dos deputados que estão com vocês desde já meu ponto de vista

  2067. Os comentários tecidos por uma pessoa, a qual se intitula ”sincerão”, são merecedores de determinadas posições, inclusive por nem sequer se encontrar inserido, aqui, na realidade situacional dos cidadãos do bairro. Aliás, a comunidade, em questão, não foi consultada sobre a inserção de uma escola de samba, pronto e ponto, diga – se passagem, com a aplicação de recursos públicos, oriundos da sociedade. Vou adiante, o mover e o movimentar de ações e articulações coordenadas não serão cessadas e nos valeremos de todos os instrumentos legais para fazer confirmar nossos direitos e deveres. Por fim, Senhor Sincerão, desafio – o para um diálolgo aberto, franco e claro, sem ilações, sem sofismas, sem se estribar em divagações e pilhérias, com a finalidade de expor idéias e não as impor. Ademais, quer queira ou não, haverá o progredir de todas as medidas adequadas, como já externado, a perpetração da devida cobrança a efeito de extrair explicações de tais benefícios abstrusos ora conferidos a uma escola de samba (vamos falar a verdade; vamos tratar as pessoas condignamente, sem balelas, sem lorotas, sem conversas vagas, indefinidas e evasivas).

  2068. É LAMENTÁVEL, pois com certeza vai acabar com o sossego dos moradores e também atrapalhar os cultos da igreja Rocha Eterna que tem feito muito pelo nosso bairro e sem usar o dinheiro público

  2069. Por falar em fezinha, a placa do carro é um ótimo palpite….arrisca lá…
    Abraço a carinhoso PNC.

  2070. Marcboli, se quiser professor vc pode pegar todo o seu conhecimento de lingua Portuguesa e dar essas aulas de reforço, será bem aceito e fará um bem enorme, vc crescerá como ser humano e deixará esse preconceito de lado isso não te ajuda….
    6 dizia de pessoas Kkkķkk vamos la professor, bom mesmo são vcs, que através do líder do movimento foi até o Toninho Paiva, um vereador com vários mandatos consecutivos e prometeu que usaria toda sua liderança comunitária pra ajudo-lo na eleição, e sabe que aconteceu né Kkkķkkk o coitado do Toninho perdeu e o candidato apoiado pela 6 duzia da escola ganhou…..
    Grandes líderes vcs heim….parabéns queimaram um vereador com 8 mandatos consecutivos…..Kkkķkkk
    A propósito professor, vc tbem é fã de Adolf Hitler?
    Abraço comedia

  2071. Um verdadeiro absurdo! Com tantas demandas no bairro, uma escola de samba para acabar com o sossego .

  2072. Da só uma olhada nos últimos comentários.
    Todos postados ao mesmo tempo e com o mesmo jeito de escrever Kkkķkkk.
    Tá vendo pq vcs vivem chorando derrota, por isso os caras q estão a frente do negócio são confusos, fracos, escrevem o mesmo texto com nomes diferentes, usa mesma ortografia com outros nomes kkkkkk
    Sai dessa garoa ai gente, vão se resfriar…

  2073. Foi como eu disse anteriormente:
    6 dúzia de integrantes da escola de samba com pseudônimos diferentes estão tentando descaracterizar uma matéria munida de documentos usando argumentum ad hominen, ad baculum, ad Populum, ad ignorantiam entre outros.

    Uma coisa nós teremos que concordar sem preconceito linguístico: os integrantes estão precisando de reforço escolar, pois além de “assassinar o português” estão com problemas de interpretação de texto. Antes da faculdade solidaria, façam um reforço escolar. Que seja em outro lugar, quem sabe na Vila Esperança se o MPSP não averiguar também.

    Sincerao: Já está disponível para fazer jogo do bicho no Salão Multiuso?

  2074. Estou sim inconformado a prefeitura utilizará o nosso dinheiro para uma escola de samba…
    Não aceitamos isso, apoiem outros tipos de projetos mas escola de samba Não….
    Façam uso consciente do nosso dinheiro …
    Praças, Postos de saúde…
    Pensem nos moradores Idosos, Jovens, Crianças….
    Não concordo com essa escola de samba aqui em nosso bairro, sou totalmente contra!

  2076. Claramente não estou de acordo em se permitir em nosso bairro uma escola de samba….
    Onde estão com a cabeça?
    Pensem nos idosos, jovens e crianças…
    Não queremos uma escola de samba em nosso bairro!
    Escola de samba aqui não, não e não!

  2077. Venho informar que sou totalmente contra ter uma escola de samba aqui em nosso bairro!
    Tangos esperança que seremos ouvidos e que tal absurdo não será permitido …
    Não queremos escola de samba…
    Queremos tranquilidade, uma área de lazer para os moradores seria muito bem vindo!

  2078. Prezada Riselda, sou moradora do bairro e estou extremamente, triste, irritada, indignada e muito preocupada com a instalação da escola de samba a sua matéria está sendo essencial pois trouxe a verdade a tona. Continue investigando, ouça a maior parte de moradores possíveis da região é divulgue nossa não aceitação…
    Não aceitamos, não queremos, não concordamos com escola de samba aqui!
    Queremos projetos que favoreçam aos moradores praça ou posto de saúde… Mas escola de samba não, não mesmo!

  2079. É triste demais ver que não estão preocupados com os moradores da região…
    Pensem nos idosos, jovens, crianças…
    Vamos ser claros qual os benefícios de uma escola de samba?
    Vai tirar nossa tranquilidade … tornar uma região barulhenta….
    Não queremos isso…
    Essa é a voz dos moradores:
    ESCOLA DE SAMBA AQUI NÃO

  2080. Vou ser objetivo e direto …
    ESCOLA DE SAMBA AQUI NÃO
    Simples assim… Sou totalmente contra…
    Parabéns ao excelente trabalho de vcs, que possam permanecer demonstrando a indignação dos moradores….
    ESCOLA DE SAMBA AQUI NAO

  2081. Ridícula essa aprovação… Os moradores foram ouvidos ? Saibam não queremos..Não concordamos.
    Não queremos escola de Samba nesse Bairro … nesta região….
    Queremos tranquilidade, queremos que se preocupem com os idosos, jovens, crianças da região… queremos lazer , queremos paz …
    Por favor não permitam isso..
    Escola de Samba aqui NÃO!

  2082. Matéria excelente
    É exatamente isso !
    Escola de samba aqui não!
    Não mesmo… Tirar nossa tranquilidade? Como pode isso?
    Não somos a favor! Por favor deixem nosso bairro permanecer com essa tranquilidade que temos.
    Se querem utilizar o espaço de forma agradável, faça uma praça com bancos e alguns balanços, escorregadores para crianças… Onde as famílias daqui possam usufruir de maneira proveitosa, alegre.
    Não para Escola de Samba!

  2083. Totalmente contra a implantação de uma escola de samba. Com tantas necessidades, como na área da saúde (posto, Upa, etc) ou (creche), querem implantar, escola de samba, o com dinheiro público, deixo aqui o meu não, e não.

  2084. Sou totalmente contra uma escola de Samba …
    Precisamos de tranquilidade, paz ao nosso redor e não barulho ….
    Será que conseguem ouvir os moradores?
    Não queremos escola de samba, queremos um ambiente de lazer ao ar livre para os idosos, jovens, crianças….
    Será que seria difícil deixar um ambiente assim ?
    Preferem mesmo uma escola de samba ?
    Espero que revejam isso e pensem mais nos moradores, para que haja um ambiente de paz, tranquilo, agradável e principalmente familiar ….

  2085. Vamos priorizar projetos para escola infantil, ajudar pessoas carentes e não a escola de samba, além de não trazer benefício algum, vai trazer destruição ao Bairro.
    Ridículo essa ação da prefeitura pare agora, nós elegemos pessoas para fazer coisas boas, faz uma pesquisa no bairro se realmente nós queremos samba na região.
    Tenha paciência Brasil.

  2086. Olá, venho aqui deixar clara a minha indignação com relação a autorização de nesse espaço permitir uma escola de samba…
    Um bairro tão tranquilo, imagina como será daqui pra frente?
    Tantas coisas poderiam ser feita, uma praça com bancos, balanços para crianças, escorregadores, um ambiente familiar ao ar livre… Mas uma escola de samba… Onde haverá com toda certeza aglomeração, muito barulho, bebedeiras, drogas, sensualidade e nossas crianças estarão expostas a isso…
    Sou contra … Não considero isso favorável…
    Que realmente vocês possam mostrar a indignação dos moradores com essa liberação para escola de Samba…
    Tenho certeza que poucos são os que estão de acordo e que a maioria dos moradores não concordam com essa liberação…
    Que possa ouvir nossa voz e não permitir que permaneça uma escola de samba, mas que façam desse lugar um ambiente familiar.

  2087. Lutadora….vc lutou por um bairro melhor qdo?
    Para de conversa fiada de Internet e se informa, quer falar de projetos educacionais, vai lá na escola q eles certamente irão te contar quais são os deles é com certeza se juntar esse monte de bobalhão que assim como vc tá falando um monte de besteira, não da 10% do que a escola faz por educação…aliás desse monte de fanfarrão q tá aí nunca fizeram nada de caridade…
    Não se mete em assunto que vcs não entendem….

  2088. É incrível, como pode a subprefeitura não pensar no coletivo,nos jovens,idosos,e em todos os moradores, que precisam desta praça para lazer e prática de esporte, e um projeto de saude no local,e ainda construir com o dinheiro publico uma escola de samba que só beneficia a uma meia dúzia de pessoas que sequer moram ao entorno deste local,e tem mais mora a 1 km da escola de samba na Aricanduva,e mesmo a está distância o barulho dos ensaios é terrível impedindo o sono de muitos moradores

  2089. Não podemos aceitar que nosso dinheiro vai para algo que não seja a saúde ou educação, um país com tantas mortes por falta de verbas ,vamos lutar até por que não e hora de pensar em carnaval, é muito menos deixar um espaço tão tranquilo para fazer escola de samba, vamos lutar para um parque algo que agrega na educação triste ver os comentários mesmo sendo integrantes da escola ,estamos no tempo precário sem escola de samba

  2090. É absurdo o uso de verba pública para esse tipo de coisa; espaço público que poderia ser usado para benefício público. Quando começarem as aglomerações, barulho, consumo de bebidas e o que vem na esteira desse tipo de atividade, a Escola vai fazer o que a respeito?

  2091. Bruno…vc ê advogadO e conselheirA…decide ai…
    Conta ai quem banca esses projetos???
    Se quiser tem alguns documentos pra outras denúncias, ai vc leva faz uma porção delas e ganha mais moral ainda com a FIESP…da até pra pensar em presidência de tanta moral q vc vai ganhar…Se quiser da um toque ae…

  2092. Tatiana….essa é pra vc que gosta de fazer justiça….
    Tem um ai, q é líder da parada que vende comida em casa, sem firma aberta, sem licença da vigilância sanitária, junto com escritório de advocacia…olha q prata cheio pra vc chamar um monte órgão…PM, Policia fazendaria, Vigilância Sanitaria, OAB….tem bastante trampo ai…
    Poxa sacanagem com vc né, vendendo comida sem pagar impostos em condições de higiene sabe se lá como….vc deveria como defensora da ordem publica tomar providências..duvido vc nao saber, pq ate documento de 99 anos de posse vc achou….sera q essa da marmita vc nao sabia, ou vc é conivente com crimes contra saúde pública….não me decepcione heim…contamos com vc pra denunciar isso.
    .

  2093. Muito triste saber que mais uma vez o nosso dinheiro está sendo utilizado de maneira errada, sem falar com os moradores da região, com tantas necessidades mais urgentes do bairro. Continuamos indignados e querendo saber como proceder nessa situação. O que fazer para valer nossa opinião????????? Moradores de mais 50 anos. Muito triste….. …..

  2094. Também sou morador do bairro, e essa história de ser de cunho social é conversa prá boi dormir! É mais uma maneira dos parceiros do Vereador receber verba por meios “oficiais”. A escola nem é do bairro e ganha terreno e dinheiro! Quem é morador do bairro ganha o quê com isso? O bairro é antigo, o único lazer dos idosos é andar nas calçadas do rio e serem picados pelos pernilongos. Lamentável.

  2095. Uma ótima matéria …
    Lendo os comentários sobre ação social, ação social maquiada de barulho, bagunça, criminalidade.
    Desculpam mAs não acho justo tirar a paz de um bairro residencial, com asilos e etc para fazer bagunças, os mesmo que presentearam com esse espaço que conceda outro lugar longe de residência pra que façam isso.
    Agora tirar a paz, tranquilidade e desvalorizar nossos imóvel, a isso não temos que aceitar!

  2096. Uma ótima matéria …
    Lendo os comentários sobre ação social, ação social maquiada de barulho, bagunça, criminalidade.
    Desculpam mAs não acho justo tirar a paz de um bairro residencial, com asilos e etc para fazer bagunças, os mesmo que presentearam com esse espaço que conceda outro lugar longe de residência pra que façam isso.
    Agora tirar a paz, tranquilidade e desvalorizar nossos imóvel, a isso não temos que aceitar!

  2097. Uma ótima matéria …
    Lendo os comentários sobre ação social, ação social maquiada de barulho, bagunça, criminalidade.
    Desculpam mAs não acho justo tirar a paz de um bairro residencial, com asilos e etc para fazer bagunças, os mesmo que presentearam com esse espaço que conceda outro lugar longe de residência pra que façam isso.
    Agora tirar a paz, tranquilidade e desvalorizar nossos imóvel, a isso não temos que aceitar!

  2098. A Ana Millani é aquela amiga da Keke…aquela cheia de atitude q fala pelos cotovelos, cheia de valentia….Sei,sei…
    Pior q tem um integrante da família q tem grupo de samba…coitado acho melhor ele se afastar pro filme de não ficar queimado, pq ter alguém q corre contra seu sustento não é legal….família de sambista correndo contra o samba….pobre rapaz….

  2099. Muito triste saber que mais uma vez o nosso dinheiro está sendo utilizado de maneira errada, sem falar com os moradores da região, com tantas necessidades mais urgentes do bairro. Continuamos indignados e querendo saber como proceder nessa situação. O que fazer para valer nossa opinião????????? Moradores de mais 50 anos. Muito triste…..

  2100. Eh a Tatiana heim, chamando a Polícia pra churrascada de 10 pessoas….não precisa chamar a PM da próxima vez vou dar um toque pra a galera te chamar….poxa churrascada em 10 pessoas com o seu dinheiro que vc paga seu impostos no terreno público realmente é um um crime pra ser combatido, da roxima vez chama o FBI e a liga da justiça , isso não pode ficar assim…

  2101. Um bairro tradicional, com 02 asilos bem próximos, moradores tranquilos e muito antigos merecem sossego. A instalação dessa escola vai transformar isso. Estamos todos indignados com a má fé dos vereadores que nos enganaram dizendo q a finalidade era outra. Temos certeza q existem outros lugares mais adequados para isso. Muita indignação.

  2102. Sou integrante da escola esse povo que está falando um monte de bosta pode me procurar lá na escola

  2103. Que tristeza…..moradores que se dizem de “bem” atrelando escolas de samba a criminalidade, perturbação, tráfico e outras coisas….a probabilidade dessas mesmas pessoas nunca terem pisado em uma escola é enorme…Alguns comentários são irracionais, onde dizem que não existe comunidade no local, claro que existe!!! Onde estão com a cabeça,?
    O pior sao insinuações de ridicularizar projetos sociais, e ainda pedem UBS, mas se não existe comidade pra que serviria?
    Alguns fazem comentários do tipo “Quer fazer projetos sociais, faça mas longe de mim” que dó dessa gente….
    Dizem que a escola veio com resposta pronta, a nota que foi publicada está muito clara em relação às intenções da agremiação.
    Se vc que está insatisfeito com a instalação de uma base da escola,compareça ao local, faça seus questionamentos é um direto seu, mas sempre com educação pois será bem tratado.
    Alguns cometem o absurdo de acusações sem o mínimo fundamento, e o pior dizem ter documentos que provam que o vereador “tomou” o terreno e deu concessão de 99 anos…..que maldade, nao precisa ser da área da política pra saber q um vereador não tem esse poder.
    Muitos não conseguem disfarçar em seus discursos o ódio e preconceito com que faz coisas pelo povo, isso incomoda muito esse tipo de gente, manifestação popular e de massa realmente incomoda certos perfis, essas pessoas são aquele tipo que justiça por exemplo de não racista com a frase “Não sou racista, tenho ATE amigo negro” ou “não sou homofobico nada contra, mas ele la e eu aqui” e tbem aquele que nao tem nada contra pobre,mas nao senta para almocar junto com sua ” empregada” ou manda ela subir no elevador de serviço pro seu super apartamento de 50 mts. financiado em 30 anos com documentos “frorjados” pra entar no progama minha casa,minha vida….
    Pra vc que desdenha dos nossos projetos e alguns afirmarem ser de fachada, em nossas redes sociais tem um progama chamado “IMPERATRIZ SOLIDADRIA”que em parceria com faculdades e que através da nossa entidade é ofertado bolsas de até 90% para quem quer fazer uma faculdade, mas sabemos que esse tipo de acesso incomoda alguns e é muito estratégico atacar e desdenhar dessas ações do que apoiar e elogiar.
    A propósito foi passado essas informações a jornalista Riselda para ajudar a fomentar a informação sobre as nossas ações mas ela não mostrou interesse de informar um outro lado dessa história.
    Vc que esta apoiando essa ação, cuidado pois vai passar vergonha qdo souber a real intenção dos líderes ,desse movimento, ( um deles faz ate piada do Adolf Hitler rindo do Brasil, pois é HITLER bom gosto né!?) e com certeza não estão preocupados com questões de bem estar dos moradores, e sim projetos pessoais de garantir uma oportunidade de vantagem, investigem tá fácil.
    Por fim, a escola está com as portas abertas, quem quiser é só entrar e tirar as próprias conclusões.

    E aos cheios de ódios, desejo que vcs melhorem!!!!

  2104. Oh Marcboli vc citou falácia, que o Bairro da Vila Talarico e Nova Savóia não existe comunidade.
    Da uma explicada ai professor qual o seu conceito de comunidade, pois não entendi.
    Se os projetos são fachada o que teria por traz dela.
    Estamos curiosos.

  2105. A Ana é aquela que sai com o cachorro pra fingir que tá passeando e se esconde atrás da árvore pra tirar fotos.
    A Polícia foi lá pra apurar a gravíssima denúncia da Tatiana de pessoas da limpeza e segurança, (segundo ela 10 pessoas)que estavam juntando o resto das obras e fazendo limpeza do local.
    PM muito educadamente constatou q não havia nenhuma irregularidade e foi embora.
    Deixa a PM trabalhar amiga eles são essenciais para outras ocorrências e não tem tempo pra fofoqueiro…

  2106. Oh Lu, vem cá…
    Explica esse negócio de que o sub prefeito foi transferido por mal uso do seu dinheiro?
    Um servidor qdo comete uma irregularidade ele é exonerado e não transferido igual a um gerente de banco se ele faz coisa errada ele é demitido e não transferido de agência…entendeu?
    Para de fofoca e vem doar uma alimento pro projeto da escola é muito mais bonito.

    PS- Texto do RLR e MSR é mesmo, vcs pensam iguais ou tá fazendo postagem com outros nomes pra fazer volume?
    Feio heim..

  2107. Muito curioso os moradores relataram que o local sempre foi seguro e tranquilo, mas querem a instalação de uma base da GCM, pra que???

    Sei não heim, ta confuso.

  2108. Oh morador, não sei se tá sabendo mas não teve verba esse ano, se pudesse com certeza a escola transformaria tudo em cestas básicas, sem problemas, mas tem muitos outros projetos tbem, assunto q provavelmente vc não embasamento pra debater.
    O terreno da Vila Esperança vai bem, vai lá pra ver, está a disposição.

    “PAS”

  2109. Acho um absurdo essa escola se instalar em nosso bairro, sem ao menos consulrarem os moradores e ” eles de onde são ” os bairros ao redor da escola construída com dinheiro público cedida pelo político Gilson Barreto e Sr. Sub-prefeito Tiago Dela Volpe que até foi transferido de sub-prefeitura pela sua má gestão e mal uso do nosso dinheiro sim. Então vamos usar o dinheiro para obras que tragam benefícios..para que todos possam usufruir e os pais não ficarem com medo de seus filhos transitarem pelo local. E o respeito com os idosos com a bagunça que essa escola fará. Quando começarem com seus ensaios que serão frequentados por drogados e o que mais….. Moradores não podemos deixar isso acontecer tirando nosso sossego de quem trabalha o dia todo e chega em e não poderá descansar

  2110. Acho um absurdo essa escola se instalar em nosso bairro, sem ao menos consulrarem os moradores e ” eles de onde são ” os bairros ao redor da escola construída com dinheiro público cedida pelo político Gilson Barreto e Sr. Sub-prefeito Tiago Dela Volpe que até foi transferido de sub-prefeitura pela sua má gestão e mal uso do nosso dinheiro sim. Então vamos usar o dinheiro para obras que tragam benefícios..para que todos possam usufruir e os pais não ficarem com medo de seus filhos transitarem pelo local. E o respeito com os idosos com a bagunça que essa escola fará. Quando começarem com seus ensaios que serão frequentados por drogados e o que mais….. Moradores não podemos deixar isso acontecer tirando nosso sossego de quem trabalha o dia todo e chega em e não poderá descansar

  2111. Sincerao, pede pra escola usar a verba do dinheiro público que ganhou para comprar cestas básicas já que não tivemos carnaval.
    Aliás, o que estão fazendo com o outro espaço que a prefeitura cedeu na Vila Esperança?
    Um galpão de 700 mil reais para arrecadar cesta básica… bullshit!!!

  2113. Ótima matéria, escola de samba aqui não!!!

    Tirar a paz de milhares de família, com barulho, bagunça e criminalidade…

    Muitas pessoas quando querem fazer ação social faz, não precisa de um galpão com
    Nome de escola de samba para fazer…

    #escola de samba aqui não!!!

  2114. Que pouca vergonha, tomar um terreno de forma não democrática e alegar que é para o bem de todos. É rir pra não chorar. Pouca vergonha, passar a mao no dinheiro da população pra arrecadar votos, e ainda tem quem defenda!

    Não tem cabimento algum a construção dessa escola de samba em um bairro residencial, agora mesmo em plena pandemia os integrantes desta escola estavam reunidos com churrasco!

    Aparentemente não estão tão preocupados assim com a comunidade já que nem ao menos se importam de disseminar o vírus em um bairro cheio de idosos, e ainda tem gente que cai nesse discurso de ação social! Isso é tudo uma farsa, a escola ajudou a eleger Gilson Barreto por meio de ações fazendo campanhas até via Facebook e, em troca, ele está TIRANDO da população este espaço gigante e, como se não bastasse, dinheiro público também.

    Um verdadeiro absurdo!

  2115. Primeiramente, quero parabenizar pela excelente reportagem.

    Tudo embasado com documentos, fatos e, principalmente, oportunidade para que todos os envolvidos se posicionarem.

    Dito isso, confesso que não entendo como existem pessoas que ainda tentam mudar o foco, alegando discriminação, preconceito e, outros tantos motivos, para justificar: Desvio de finalidade.

    Os fins justificam os meios?

    Lógico que não. Nunca a alegação de “para fazer o bem” , autoriza governantes e agremiações a tomarem posse de um local público para o interesse privado.

    Não queremos e não precisamos de uma escola de samba. O pedido desde 2017 era para uma área de saúde, UBS Trindade.

    A região e residencial e, por isso, o que precisamos é cuidar dos moradores com o que eles precisam e, não com algo que não foi pedido, ou mesmo votado por nossas famílias.

    Querer ajudar, contribuir? Comecem pegar suas coisas e ir para um lugar dentro de uma comunidade.

    Lá poderão fazer o que quiser e se tiver algum governante querendo ajudar, que coloquem dinheiro dos bolsos deles e não do nosso.

    Trabalhamos e queremos respeito, segurança e paz, o que tenho certeza, não é um Barracão que vai nos dar.

  2116. Acho um absurdo essa escola se instalar em nosso bairro, sem ao menos consulrarem os moradores e ” eles de onde são ” os bairros ao redor da escola construída com dinheiro público cedida pelo político Gilson Barreto e Sr. Sub-prefeito Tiago Dela Volpe que até foi transferido de sub-prefeitura pela sua má gestão e mal uso do nosso dinheiro sim. Então vamos usar o dinheiro para obras que tragam benefícios..para que todos possam usufruir e os pais não ficarem com medo de seus filhos transitarem pelo local. E o respeito com os idosos com a bagunça que essa escola fará. Quando começarem com seus ensaios que serão frequentados por drogados e o que mais….. Moradores não podemos deixar isso acontecer tirando nosso sossego de quem trabalha o dia todo e chega em e não poderá descansar

  2117. Estou indignada, e preocupada, afinal sou moradora no bairro e quero sossego e me sentir segura, com essa escola de samba não terei nada disso para minha família!!
    Escola de Samba aqui maooooo!!!

  2118. Um espaço ocupado sem a concordância de moradores da região, espaço destinado a utilização pública, em prol dos moradores do bairro, É ABSURDO INSTITUIR UMA ESCOLA DE SAMBA utilizando argumento de que será favorável à população do bairro.
    Eu como Advogado e conselheira da FIESP levarei pessoalmente aos responsáveis o ocorrido.

    Bem sabemos quem banca esse tipo de “projeto social” descaracterizado.

  2119. Oh Nice, pelo q li nos comentários a escola começou a fazer arrecadação dos alimentos e não a distribuição ainda, aproveita que vc mora “em frente” e atravessa a rua e leva um kit de alimentos, vai fazer bem e ajuda o próximo, caridade faz bem!!!

  2120. Sou nascido e criado no mundo do carnaval e posso garantir que já sofri todo tipo de discriminação por isso, ser rotulado, ser associado com coisas ruins são fatos normais para quem vive de cultura, principalmente da cultura mais popular do Brasil, por isso não me surpreendo em ler uma matéria tendenciosa, discriminatória e totalmente elitista quanto essa.
    Em primeiro lugar, o terreno citado não foi invadido e sim “ocupado”, para transformar uma área abandonada num local onde a cultura popular e projetos sociais beneficiarão a comunidade.
    Notei também em depoimentos das pessoas que são contra a instalação da Imperatriz no local, uma total “falta de consciência de classe”, incrível pareciam moradores dos jardins ou de Moema , tamanho o desprezo demonstrado com a chegada de uma entidade que pode somar positivamente com a comunidade, a pergunta é:
    Seriam essas mesmas pessoas contrárias a uma instalação de por exemplo, da sede de uma orquestra sinfônica ou algum outra entidade que trouxesse uma falsa sensação de glamour para o bairro?
    Vi pessoas na maior cara de pau, querendo uma UBS no local, com o velho golpe elitista de jogar a cultura sempre para o último plano.
    Esses mesmos que querem uma UBS, reclamarão Quando o povão lotar esse posto e incomodar o sossego que dizem tanto valorizar.
    Viva a cultura populare como diria o poeta…
    Samba, agoniza mas não morre!

  2121. Sou morador venho expressar minha total insatisfação com a destinação do terreno mencionado aqui na matéria. Primeiro porque não atende aos interesse dos moradores (posto de saúde, praça para recreação, quadra poliesportiva…) e também trata-se de construção irregular, em área de zoneamento urbano, ou seja, o volume que será emitido dessa escola de samba em dias de ensaio com certeza será muito maior do que os níveis de decibéis permitidos pelo município e fiscalizado pela polícia militar, como será que eles vão respeitar a lei do silêncio e não incomodar o descanso dos moradores da região do entorno que é massivamente residencial? Eu não faço idéia.

  2122. Olá, moro em frente a essa “escola”, até hoje não vi nenhuma entrega de cesta básica que estão citando aqui. Nesse espaço poderia ter sido feito outras coisas para beneficiar os moradores da região. Acho um absurdo usar dinheiro público, vereadores querendo ganhar votos e se beneficiar prejudicando as pessoas que moram aqui, os moradores é que vão sofrer com toda bagunça que essa escola vai trazer.
    NÃO QUEREMOS ESCOLA DE SAMBA AQUI!!

  2123. Parabéns Riselda, a matéria foi um relato coerente e real do absurdo que a prefeitura, está tentando fazer em ceder o espaço, sem consulta nenhuma aos moradores do bairro, de maneira autoritária e escandalosa, a escola de samba. E se não bastasse, construir o espaço com dinheiro público para ceder a dita escola de samba. Saliento que o referido espaço era almejado pelos moradores do bairro, para que fosse construída uma UBS e uma base da GCM. Mas como disse, os moradores, que são os maiores interessados, nem sequer foram consultados, e foram cerceados de melhorias em detrimento de ceder o espaço para uso particular da escola, evidenciando um claro desrespeito aos moradores. Cabe salientar ainda as mais de 3000 assinaturas de moradores contrários a cessão do espaço a escola. Precisamos de UBS, BASE GCM, LABORATÓRIO, INSTITUIÇÃO DE ENSINO, E não de escola de samba.

  2124. Um absurdo!!!! Precisamos de escolas e UBSs na região e não de Galpão de escola de Samba! Ainda mais a forma privilegiada que foi liberado o terreno!!!! Indignação!!!

  2125. Obrigada por publicar esse problema que estamos enfrentando.
    Precisamos de posto de saúde, creches, praças, áreas de lazer e não de uma escola de samba que já está trazendo desvalorização para a nossa moradia e que trará mais insegurança e barulhos para nosso bairro.
    #escoladesambaaquinão

  2126. Escola de samba vai ser sinonimo de barulho tretas e maloqueiros embreagados. Chamariz pra ladroes!
    Pensem nas noites mal dormidas, e na loucura q será.
    Sem contar nos congestionamentos das vias uma vez q aq eh um bairro residencial e q vem subindo o conceito mais e mais. Os precos dos imoveis cairam uma vez q o bairro da Guilhermina nunka mais sera o msmo.
    Pensem!!

  2127. Como cidada, municipe e moradora em frente ao galpao acho um verdadeiro absurdo ver o dinheiro da população sendo investido de uma maneira que não é do interesse da população que tem muitas demandas lícitas para o uso da área. Além disso os moradores do entorno são totalmente contra esse tipo de destinação do terreno e verba por ser uma área totalmente residencial. Aliás cabe levantar se a área em questão faz parte da hamada Área de Proteção Permanente do entorno do corrego não permitindo construção e impermeabilização do solo.

  2128. Primeiro, parabéns pela matéria!
    Uma abordagem completa e muito bem feita!

    É lamentável ver o nosso dinheiro sendo destinado para um projeto totalmente parcial e sem sentido, que não trará nenhum benefício ao nosso bairro, mas sim problemas graves.
    Esta história de que farão projetos sociais é um subterfúgio para cobrir o que está nos bastidores, até porque esta é uma obrigação do poder público e não de montarem uma escola de samba para promover isto!
    Sou totalmente desfavorável e gostaria que as autoridades competentes realizassem projetos que trouxessem benefício ao bairro, como um posto de saúde, UBS, creche ou mesmo tivessem projetado um espaço poli esportivo decente.
    Não compactuo com este projeto e gostaria que as autoridades competentes revissem este pseudo “investimento” e melhoria de um local abandonado, que abrigava drogados (nunca vi isso em 15 anos no bairro), tudo realizado com nossos recursos, ou seja, recursos públicos mais uma vez mal destinados e tendenciosos.

  2129. Dói o coração ler esses comentários a favor, sem dúvida não são pessoas no bairro de verdade, só mostra como é fácil calar quem é honesto. Ninguém quer essa escola, ninguém que eu tenha visto dar as caras de verdade sobre isso, enquanto todos contra lutam com todas as forças que tem, de cara a tapa e limpa, e sabe quem ouve? Ninguém

  2130. Acho engraçado esse pessoal que mora há 25 anos no local e vê moradores de rua. Quando eu era criança essa parte era o melhor lugar para festas, pessoal jogava bola, isso só há no máximo 15 anos atrás.

    Morador de rua? Dona Xuxa louca anda pelo bairro desde que me entendo por gente, apesar de xingar amigos invisíveis nunca fez mal a ninguém. Os moradores sempre pediram que o local fosse transformado em algo que agradasse a todos e nunca foram atendidos!
    Sim, ninguém gostava de passar lá a noite, mas não tinham moradores de rua, não tinham usuários de drogas e sim uma área descampada que muito foi exigido uma área de lazer. Culpa da prefeitura

    A mesma prefeitura que me admira é conceder a escola que nem do bairro é um terreno que a própria comunidade de bairro lutou tanto pra ter. É o mesmo que impedir a mãe de entrar em casa e não o estranho.

    Enfim, dinheiro público é pra bem público, e a escola não acrescenta nada na opinião dos moradores. Essa é verdadeira corrupção esfregada embaixo do nosso nariz e a sensação que fica é de IMPOTENCIA. Até comentarios e argumentos comprados dá pra enxergar, é difícil as pessoas de bem lutar contra armas tão pesadas e cheias de dinheiro, enquanto só temos nossas vozes caladas.

  2131. é a primeira vez que vejo um barracão de escola de samba pra servir a comunidade num bairro que NÃO TEM COMUNIDADE

    é a primeira vez que vejo que pra resolver o problema de segurança de um local, ao invés de implantar um posto da GCM, se monta um barracão de ensaio de samba

    nunca vi um barracão de samba no meio de residencias, cercada de casa de repouso … só aqui mesmo que é a casa da mãe Joana. Os outros espaços de escola de samba, ficam em vias com melhor circulação como as marginais

    a única moradora de rua da proximidade é uma senhora que não vivia na praça, mas no entorno, há anos

    é a primeira vez que vejo que melhorar a iluminação de um local, não se solicita melhoria em postes de luz, se DOA um espaço publico, um terreno gigante + a bagatela de 700 mil reais pra uma instituição que tranca o local e faz uso da forma e quando quer

    é a primeira vez que vejo que para melhorar a limpeza da região, ao invés de cobrar a subprefeitura (que é obrigação dela, diga-se de passagem), se cerca o local com alambrado e finge que vai ser um salão multi uso

    é… vivendo e aprendendo

    Ninguém do bairro é contra a cultura, a alegria e ação social de quem quer que seja.
    Pode sim trazer alegria, fazer ação pública, incentivar a cultura do Carnaval.
    Mas não é empurrando esse espaço goela abaixo dos moradores que os problemas da região vão se resolver
    O que se discute aqui é o LOCAL que esse barracão foi implantado… só isso.

    SE É TÃO LEGAL ASSIM, TRAZ TANTOS BENEFÍCIOS, PQ OS GOVERNANTES NÃO VÃO MORAR AO LADO DE UM?

  2132. Prezada Riselda, muito obrigada pela matéria! Sou moradora do bairro há mais de 40 anos e não julgo q temos a necessidade da instalação de uma escola de samba no bairro. Temos sim, outras necessidades como na área da saúde, por exemplo. Acredito que este assunto deveria ser debatido, democraticamente, no conselho gestor do nosso bairro, espaço reservado a estes fins que definem as prioridades do nosso território.

  2133. Não se trata de preconceito? E se fosse requerido por uma igreja evangélica, ou católica… será que teriam o mesmo tratamento???
    Nossos bairros tem carências de tantos serviços, como creches, postos de saúde, até mesmo uma associação do bairro em prol da comunidade…mas nunca pensaram nisso.
    E de onde surgiu o dinheiro pra fazer esta obra? E só investigar que vão achar coisa errada!

  2134. Adorei a matéria Riselda. É lamentável um espaço público, ser utilizado por pessoas que nem no bairro mora.

  2135. Opinião cada um tem a sua… O que vale aqui não é opinião: É ARGUMENTO. É FATO.
    A matéria foi feita com base em DOCUMENTOS. Nada aqui dessa matéria é invenção.
    São documentos públicos que estão disponíveis na subprefeitura. Só procurar.
    Inclusive escola de samba, subprefeitura e vereador foram ouvidos. E deram essas respostinhas prontas, não explicando em NADA as perguntas que foram feitas.

    O fato é que a subprefeitura, apoiada pelo vereador Gilson Barreto, TOMOU um espaço publico que era DE TODOS para alavancar VOTOS para eleição e deu por 99 anos pra uma escola de samba. Quem já ganhou terreno de 2.700 m² aí levanta a mão!!

    Desde quando pra fazer ação social, a subprefeitura precisa doar um espaço público pra uma escola de samba?
    Neste mesmo espaço havia um pedido de implantação de UBS que manteria o local iluminado, assim como requerido por alguns, e não foi atendido. A UBS também poderia fazer ação social.

    E se a escola quiser realmente fazer ação social, não precisa ter um espaço só deles. Ação social se faz em qualquer lugar.

    Desde quando pra tirar drogado de um determinado espaço se constrói um barracão de escola de samba?
    Se essa é a solução pra acabar com usuário de drogas de um local, vamos então encher a cracolandia de barracão de escola de samba… pronto, está resolvida a questão de usuário de drogas.

    Um problema que é de falta de fiscalização por parte da subprefeitura, polícia e ação social não pode ser ‘consertado’ com a tomada de um espaço público. Não pode ser resolvido com DESVIO DE FUNCIONALIDADE

    A escola de samba solicitou o espaço pra CUIDAR e MANTER a praça e não pode se APODERAR do local, trancando os portões e fazendo uso do local somente de quem eles permitem

    Se ainda não ouviram barulho, fiquem tranquilos: somente em 2022 começam os ensaios. NENHUM ensaio começou até agora, por isso que não se ouve barulho.

    Na sexta-feira 13/03 já tinha churrascada com umas 10 pessoas no barracão. Claro! PRIVADO.
    Não estava aberto para ninguém.
    A polícia foi chamada.

    Vamos lutar para que o espaço SEJA REALMENTE UM SALÃO MULTIUSO PARA A COMUNIDADE.

    Abaixo o desvio de funcionalidade do local.

  2137. Absurdo a instalação dessa escola de samba, precisamos de Unidade Básica de Saúde na região e área verde, aliás essa era a proposta em 2018.

  2138. Como é engraçado a falácia dos integrantes da escola de samba.
    NÃO EXISTE COMUNIDADE NOS BAIRROS DE VILA TALARICO E VILA NOVA SAVOIA.
    Quem realmente mora no entorno sabe dos problemas que iremos enfrentar: aumento da criminalidade; aumento do trânsito; desvalorização dos imóveis; barulhos, etc…
    Esses são bairros residenciais com casas de repousos e MUITOS idosos.
    Quero agradecer a perfeita reportagem e dizer que, contra documentos não existem argumentos.
    Ação social é fachada. #escoladesambaaquinão

  2139. Isso nao passa de bar ganha em troca de votos!! Pouca vergonha!! Nenhum morador apoia a instalação da escola de samba! Quem fala que la tinha usuário de drogas nem morador é!! Ta tendo é churrascaria e aglomeração durante a pandemia!! Falar q já precisou baixar policia lá ninguém fala ne?!

  2140. Não é preconceito nenhum com escolas de samba e sim o local onde está se instalando, não é apropriado, temos asilos e muitos condomínios de moradores… Escola de samba é pra ser instalado em grandes avenidas como temos escola de samba na Aricanduva e marginal etc…. Acho que temos que respeitar sim manifestação cultural, mas temos também que respeitar o direito dos moradores que já estão aqui primeiro. Esse espaço poderia muito bem ser uma escola, uma UBS , enfim tantas outras coisas… Não é escola de samba que vai resolver nosso problema de segurança como foi escrito em comentários a cima.
    Poderia ser instalado até mesmo uma base da GCM para resolver problema de segurança.
    Por mais ação social que escola faça o foco da escola sempre será os ensaios , ou seja barulho que incomodará a vizinhança.
    Enfim deixo aqui um meu descontentamento com escola de samba ser instalada “aqui no bairro residencial”

  2141. Estou vendo vários comentários onde dizem que lá tinha moradores de rua, usuários de droga, etc. TUDO MENTIRA!!!! A única moradora de rua que temos é uma senhora que mora nesse pedaço a mais de 20 anos. E lá não tinha usuários de droga… agora depois da instalação dessa escola de samba, juntamente com a adega instalada um pouco mais a frente, vimos aumentar, e muito, o número de assaltos e arrastões. E me desculpem, mas não é uma escola de samba que vai resolver os problemas sociais da nossa região. ESSA ESCOLA, só serviu para atrair um monte de delinquentes e ainda desvalorizar nosso imóvel. Moro em frente e sou totalmente contra!

  2142. Está matéria reflete os nossos sentimentos!
    Aqui é um bairro residencial, precisamos de silêncio, segurança! Escola de samba aqui não!!!

  2143. Viva o Carnaval! Moro na Região a vida inteira e sempre faltou cultura, escola de samba é muito mais do que só o desfile em si, é acesso a cultura! Todas as escola de samba tem projetos sociais e tenho certeza que a Imperatriz da Pauliciea não é diferente! Grande ganho para o bairro e possam vir ainda mais Frutos!

  2144. Os moradores deste local querem uma UBS. Escola de Samba não nos acrescenta. Obras sociais podem ser feitas no outro terreno que já ganharam no lugar deste. O dinheiro público tem que ser melhor aplicado. Queremos também uma base da Guarda Civil e espaço verde. Queremos paz e tranquilidade. Não adianta tirar um espaço viciados e colocar coisas piores. Vamos aguardar então as investigações que já começaram
    Quem tudo quer tudo perde. Ouvi dizer que o terreno da vila Esperança também poderá ser investigado. Esse subprefeito Thiago pagará por enganar, e usar o dinheiro público com desvios de fianidades.

  2145. Até que fim alguém ouviu o que estamos gritando alguns meses.
    Gente um absurdo usar dinheiro público para fazer uma escola de samba,.
    Precisamos de UBS, precisamos de creche algo que seja útil.

    Com todo respeito uma escola de sambar não agrega em nada.
    Fora bagunça, barulho e desvalorização dos nossos Imovel, quem compraria uma casa próximo a uma escola de samba.
    Não quero e não aceito essa escola.

  2146. Moro no bairro há muitos anos e passo todos os dias pela gamelinha pra ir para o meu trabalho. Sempre tive medo daquele pedaço pois era cheio de lixo, entulhos e usuários de drogas. Hoje estou feliz em passar por lá e ver pessoas trabalhando no local cuidando do espaço e com novos projetos para todos nós do bairro. Já ouvi muitos comentários de ações sociais e diversas benfeitorias para moradores da região. Assim como eu fiz oriento as pessoas que não tem esse conhecimento se informarem sobre os projetos.

  2147. Boa tarde,sou moradora do bairro á anos,essa área estava abandonada cheio de usuários de drogas e tinha muitos assaltos,depois que começou a construção de uma escola de samba as coisas melhoraram muito, não tem mais assaltos está um lugar com iluminação, É sem contar das ações sociais que fazem e vai fazer para todos os moradores que precisam então não vejo o porq não quererem uma quadra de escola de samba que só veio p agregar na comunidade

  2148. Boa tarde e DEUS no comando sempre
    Nasci na Vila Dalila em 1970
    Vejo que a escola de samba ajudará muita a comunidade com ações sociais não vejo perigo em pessoas que só querem o bem do próximo, infelizmente estão julgando sem ver o bem que eles estão fazendo neste exato momento que é arrecadar mantimentos para quem mais precisa ,após a região ficar totalmente alagada e seus moradores sem nada nem pra se alimentar ,fui até a quadra onde só encontrei pessoas de BEM

  2149. Essas pessoas que estão irritada insatisfeita com a quadra já procuraram a direção da escola escrever e fácil difícil é fazer um bem social tantos moradores de rua ao redor usuários de drogas mas não vejo esse povo colocar a cara ,então é fácil escrever agora procurar a direção da escola ninguém foi atrás

  2150. Da onde é esse jornal que nunca vi no bairro sou morador a 40 anos nunca ouvi falar mas bom antes de publicar alguma cosia tinha que procurar saber a verdade creio quem publicou nem morador é do bairro estou feliz por ter algo no bairro carnaval é cultura pelo que sei dessa escola de samba tem muitos projetos sociais é o que o bairro precisa esse povo que está criticando nunca fez
    nada pelo bairro

  2151. Sou morador do bairro esse lugar era usado por moradores de rua e usuário de drogas creio que eu que depois que a escola assumiu o lugar parou os assalto e as vizinhaça se sente mais segura o lugar vive iluminado

  2152. Infelizmente, nesse pais, a cultura POPULAR que é uma festa de maioria negra e pobre, incomoda a grande parte das pessoas, dessa elite brasileira, rasteira e rastaquera. Essa manifestação contra a construção de uma quadra de escola de samba é a síntese do que é o nosso pais hoje, cheio de preconceituosos e fundamentalistas religiosos, que querem massacrar a classe mais baixa, impondo o seu modo de pensar, como se fosse a verdade absoluta!! O grande “CRIME” que essa escola cometeu até agora, foi a arrecadação de cestas básicas para o povo mais pobre, que não tem nenhuma oportunidade e sempre foi jogado a margem da sociedade!! Mas o que se pode esperar de uma manifestação em que um de seus “LIDERES” tem em sua rede social, uma foto de Adolf Hitler rindo do Brasil!! Sem mais!!

  2153. Boa tarde!!!
    Recebi esse link de um vizinho, confesso que moro aqui e nunca havia ouvido falar desse jornal, mas vou comentar o que acabou de acontecer.
    Acabo de chegar da escola de samba, onde recebi um aviso via mensagem de troca de alimentos por uma camiseta.
    Até pra conhecer o local e ajudar na ação, fui e chegando lá vi um pessoal muito educado e prontamente percebi que o grande lance são os projetos sociais e assisntencia aos mais necessitados.
    Perguntando em relação a ensaios foi informado que já acontecem perto do metro Vila Matilde em um clube e a escola não pensa em mudar de local.
    Ao inves de monte de coisas que estão escrevendo, deveriam ao menos fazer o que eu fiz, ir lá e conferir com os proprios olhos.

  2154. É curioso ver pessoas falando de obra com nosso dinheiro, qual dinheiro?
    O mesmo que elas dizem ser delas é também daqueles que apoiam, ou será que só eles pagam impostos?
    São uns fanfarrões mesmo!!!

  2155. Acho muito legal algo cultural ser colocado no nosso bairro, não temos nenhuma opção de cultura e acho que será muito bacana.

  2156. Moro a 3 quadras da pista mas ando todos os dias lá com meu marido, não ouvimos nenhum barulhos lá, talvez não chegue na nossa casa mas, com certeza, o local ficou muito mais seguro pois não tem mais usuários de drogas naquele terreno onde foi construído o imóvel. Quanto ao dinheiro público fica uma dúvida, uma escola de samba não é uma entidade sem fins lucrativos então não seria meio que publica também ??? Os políticos gastam o dinheiro com tantas falcatruas, roubou-se, rachadinhas, esse pelo menos melhorou nosso bairro.

  2157. Anteriormente o que se via no local era moradores de rua aglomerando sujeira. Agora uma nova realidade e conversando com os responsáveis da escola de samba entendi que os projetos sociais propostos por eles podem fazer diferença, no lazer, cultura, saúde e interação entre as pessoas. Acredito que é interessante acompanhar para ver a real intenção.

  2158. Nossa quanto preconceito com a escola de samba, alguém foi perguntar os benefícios que escola vai trazer,acho que as pessoas tão muito mal informado o que e uma escola de samba tão sendo muito preconceituosos primeiro conheça para depois tirar conclusões.

  2159. Sou morador da rua Paranhos e tinha muito medo deixar minha filha passar naquela área, acho que agora ficou mais segura sem os usuários de drogas e iluminada. Até agora não ouvi nenhum barulho, isso não me incomodou. Vamos ver daqui para frente mas aquele espaço estava largado a muitos anos e ninguém fazia nada lá.

  2160. Lamentavel reportagem,

    Se construir uma quadra de escola de samba e fazer ação social, ajudar quem precisa além de alegrar as pessoas na época de carnaval é crime imagina antes quando era um point de drogas , assaltos e possíveis ataques às nossas famílias por Nóia e estupradores .

    Moro próximo da escola em frente ao clube Batalha e depois que tiraram aquele ninho de nóia a avenida melhorou ate para as pessoas que faz caminhada na avenida ficou mais seguro .

    Acorda e veja a parte boa , porque nao vão la na escola falar com os responsáveis para saber a real intenção da construção , assim fica facíl criticar .

    Pimenta no dos outros é refresco né.

  2161. Lamentavelmente uma reportagem tendenciosa que falta com a verdade dos fatos, que em nenhum momento mostra interesse de mostrar imparcialidade.
    A proposito foi passado a jornalista , um flayer com a publicação de arrecadação de kits de alimentos em troca de uma camiseta e ela não publicou no jornal, pq será???
    Entre segunda-feira 29/03 e hoje 31/03 Já foram trocados mais de 300 kits e muitos por pessoas da região, sera mesmo que os moradores estao tão contra assim???
    A escola está aberta todos os dias e se alguém quiser conhecer os projetos e a real intenção do uso do espaço, sinta- se a vontade de perguntar e questionar todos serão muito bem recebidos.

  2162. Bom dia Sou moradora da região a mais de 25 anos tenho vários familiares que moram no bairo e arredor esse espaço estava simplesmente abandonado era um verdadeiro depósito de lixo ocupado por moradores de usuários de drogas .Fiquei muito feliz quando começou a construção dessa escola de samba que na minha opinião vem agregar a nós moradores vários projetos Social .pra um dos pontos positivo .

  2163. Bom dia Sou moradora da região a mais de 25 anos tenho vários familiares que moram no bairo e arredor esse espaço estava simplesmente abandonado era um verdadeiro depósito de lixo ocupado por moradores de usuários de drogas .Fiquei muito feliz quando começou a construção dessa escola de samba que na minha opinião vem agregar a nós moradores vários projetos Social .pra um dos pontos positivo .

  2164. Um lugar que vivia abandonado, cheio de usuários de drogas e servindo de estacionamento de empresas durante o dia é a noite pra moradores de rua, estava abandonado.
    Fui conversar um dia com o pessoal da escola, que são muito educados e disseram que ali seria uma base pra projetos sócias e execução de trabalhos para o Carnaval, tipo oficina de costura etc.
    Muita gente falando bobagem.

  2165. Moro no bairro a 25 anos. Esse espaço sempre foi ocupado por moradores de rua, usuários de drogas, sem contar o lixo que era depositado, motivando a proliferação do mosquito da dangue. A escola de samba vai valorizar nosso bairro. Eles tem projetos junto á comunidade. Escola de samba, também é lugar de Cultura e lazer.

  2166. Estou muito contente com a chegada dessa escola de samba no bairro . Ficamos sabendo que ela trará muitos benefícios para a comunidade e terá ações de muitos projetos sociais no espaço que estava abandonado , sendo utilizado por marginais para o consumo de drogas e pelo que fiquei sabendo é uma instituição séria e que nos trará mais cultura ,projetos educacionais e mais ajuda ao próximo .

  2167. Sou moradora da região a 43 anos e tenho família que mora nos prédios a frente da quadra da escola de samba , estamos muito feliz com a presença desta escola de samba , pois este espaço agora usado pela escola de samba ficou anos praticamente abandonado , sempre juntando sujeira , e automaticamente sendo usado por usuários de drogas e moradores de rua ( e assim se tornando um local muito perigoso) .
    Pelas informações que tenho a escola vai nos trazer muitos benefícios principalmente com projetos sociais para ajudar as pessoas carentes da região . Acho eu que todos temos que se unir para trazer um bem estar maior para os moradores e tendo pessoas que se dispõe a favorecer as pessoas carentes ( como é o caso desta escola de samba ) agente deveria bater palma , parabéns a todos envolvidos nos projetos sociais da Imperatriz da Paulicéia….

  2168. A reportagem apresentada demonstra a aplicação do espaço público, tristemente, voltado para atender interesses específicos de terceiros, de uma espécie de angariação de votos. Não há como negar, a comunidade, em questão, nem sequer logrou ou obteve condições de participar e ponderar sobre o efetivo destino do local. Sem sombra de dúvida, a expressão multiuso, tão somente, confirma as articulações evasivas de quem ainda conebe os recursos púbicos, como seu. Além do mais, embora houve pedidos outrora para a adoção de medidas direcionadas aos interesses autênticos da população ao redor, em momento algum, pode ser notado de diferenciado, senão a prevalência dos interesses e dos arranjos. Infelizmente, enquanto ocorrer o prosseguir da mantença de toda essa casta anódina e inócua, como parte dos eleitos, na Câmara Municipal de São Paulo, nada de benéfico poderá ser vislumbrado.

  2169. Uma reportagem completa sobre uso indevido do dinheiro público.

    Pelo posicionamento dos representantes da escola acredito não ficou claro que moradores não aceitam o uso indevido do espaço e do dinheiro.

    O mínimo que esperamos é a devolução do imóvel e que seja concedido para aérea da saúde, que com certeza, será muito melhor para um público dessa região totalmente residencial.

  2170. Inadmissível essa construção de uma escola de samba aqui na Gamelinha, pq não constroem uma escola de samba na frente da casa do prefeito, do sub prefeito, do “presidente da escola”, isso não pode né??? Precisamos de Hospital, Laboratórios, e não uma “escola de samba”.

  2171. Parabéns pela matéria. Conseguiu colocar todos os pontos verídicos, dando a chance das partes se pronunciarem.
    Com uma matéria dessa, com esse conteúdo embasado desse, o que um subprefeito vai declarar?
    O que o vereador Gilson Barreto vai argumentar?
    Em plena pandemia, gastar 700 mil reais com escola de samba, e tomar das pessoas uma área pública, é zombar dos contribuintes.
    Se o espaço é para a ‘comunidade’ pq a escola de samba fica com as chaves? Eles entram e saem qdo querem.
    De espaço público, aquilo não tem nada.

    Falta de vergonha, com os moradores do entorno. Desrespeito.
    Empurrar goela abaixo de pessoas que pagam IPTU e outros impostos, um barracão de escola de samba é desprezar ser humano.

    Srs governantes, se acham que estamos exagerando, montem um barracão de escola de samba na rua dos senhores. Nao querem?
    E o pior são os posts no Instagram do vereador e da subprefeitura contando uma história bonita de revitalização do espaço.

    QUEREMOS a UBS que estava com pedido pronto desde antes da escola de samba.

    Ignoram as pessoas, suas questões, seus pedidos, tudo pela permanência no poder.

    OBRIGADA RISELDA, por nos ouvir e nos dar VOZ.

    A mesma voz que o subprefeito ignora há 3 anos.

    Muito obrigada

  2172. O espaço público da rua Fernão Albernaz foi praticamente invadido pela escola de samba. Essa escola nunca pertenceu ao bairro. Foram oportunistas com aval do sub-prefeito Thiago Della Volpe, que de forma suspeita financiou toda a construção do espaço, inclusive com valor muito elevado pelo que foi feito. (Nossos impostos)

    O objetivo do espaço deve ser UBS e área verde como programado em 2018. O bairro é residencial e inclusive tem uma casa de repouso no mesmo quarteirão.

    É inaceitável que a prefeitura permita essa imoralidade e incoerência com os moradores do bairro. Não precisamos e não aceitaremos escola de samba aqui. Precisamos de UBS e lazer.

  2173. O salão multiuso e para beneficiar os moradores dos bairros no entorno e não para Escola de Samba. Liberem também o resto do terreno. Precisamos da área verde, qualidade de vida. Um UBS com projetos na área da saúde. É atividades que melhoram a vida das pessoas. Projetos para idosos que evitam males como Alzheimer, com projetos como inclusão digital, ginásticas, artesanatos, cursos, palestras, etc
    Não para barulho, trânsito maior, e pessoas estranhas.

  2174. Infeliz destinação de dinheiro e bem público. Os moradores estão completamente frustrados e insatisfeitos.
    A última coisa que o bairro precisa é de uma escola de samba.
    A insistência em manter essa escola de samba foge a qualquer princípio da administração pública, que foi indentificada e combatida pela população, e até agora as autoridades apenas tiram o corpo fora. ABSURDO

  2175. Sou moradora do entorno. Achei um absurdo. indignada. Pela artimanha de parlamentares em troca de votos.
    Foi cedido e construido
    sem o aval dos Moradores do entorno. E COM NOSSO DINHEIRO.
    A nossa regiao necessita área de lazer e
    POSTO SAUDE
    que tenha espaço amplo. Arejado. Para atender as demandas . E sem o custo aluguel ( pago pela prefeitura com dinheiro q tb e nosso. )
    Parabéns pela matéria. Aguardaremos um parecer favorável dos órgãos competentes.

    QUEREMOS NOSSO ESPACO DE VOLTA
    A comunidade precisa ter vez e voz
    Marcia

  2176. Prezada Riselda, sou moradora do bairro e estou extremamente irritada e preocupada com a instalação da escola de samba e a sua matéria está sendo um alento pois trouxe a verdade a tona. Continue investigando oi, se possível, leve para esferas superiores para que haja investigação. Muito obrigada pelo seu apoio! Sandra Mara

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